Topic: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

Has anyone tried one of these with the G system? I am trying to decide between the Boss FV-500H and the Dunlop. I would appreciate any feedback -Thanks!

Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

To control the Volume level of the G-Sys I would think that an expression pedal would be preferred over a volume pedal since it is not being used as a volume pedal but as an expression pedal controlling volume. Big difference. I'd be curious if that has been the experience of others.

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

Mel wrote:

To control the Volume level of the G-Sys I would think that an expression pedal would be preferred over a volume pedal since it is not being used as a volume pedal but as an expression pedal controlling volume. Big difference. I'd be curious if that has been the experience of others.

Actually, high-impedance volume pedals seem to work the best. They seem to be what the encoders in the G like to see.

Last edited by Laird_Williams (2011-02-02 13:33:25)

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

Hi,
I stood before the same question.
I found this to work for me:
I got two Boss FV-500H, operating one for the volume control with a y-cable, the other one for the expression control with a single TRS cable into the expression jack.
Although the calibration for the expression control just goes up to something in the 70s, they both are working great and reliable.
Just make sure you don't unplug/plug them when the unit is running.
Hope this helps,
Jerry

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I 'm standing before the same decission: DVP1, FH500 or EB Jr.

There's been a lot of things said about the later two, but nothing about the DVP1.
So I thought I'll write Dunlop to get an answer.
Here it is:

//JimDunlop Tech
...
The DVP1 will work for the volume section. It also look like it may work
as the expression pedal but there is a notice in the manual for the
G-System that volume pedals most likely give an unsatisfying result.

Important Note
* True expression pedals can be used to control
  all types of parameters in G-System.
* Regular volume pedals should only be used to
  control volume parameters. Using a regular
  volume pedal to control e.g. whammy or wah
  effects, will most likely give an unsatisfying
  result.
...
//JimDunlop Tech end

Somehow I get the feeling, this information isn't quite right, or am I wrong?
The FH500 is used as a volume pedal, too, or?

Thanx for this great forum...

Greetz
Dave

Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

I have a DVP1 that I use for small gigs as an expression pedal for my Nova System. I connect it with an easy expression convertor and it works really well.
-MP

Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

DF72 wrote:

I 'm standing before the same decission: DVP1, FH500 or EB Jr.

There's been a lot of things said about the later two, but nothing about the DVP1.
So I thought I'll write Dunlop to get an answer.
Here it is:

//JimDunlop Tech
...
The DVP1 will work for the volume section. It also look like it may work
as the expression pedal but there is a notice in the manual for the
G-System that volume pedals most likely give an unsatisfying result.

Important Note
* True expression pedals can be used to control
  all types of parameters in G-System.
* Regular volume pedals should only be used to
  control volume parameters. Using a regular
  volume pedal to control e.g. whammy or wah
  effects, will most likely give an unsatisfying
  result.
...
//JimDunlop Tech end

Somehow I get the feeling, this information isn't quite right, or am I wrong?
The FH500 is used as a volume pedal, too, or?

Thanx for this great forum...

Greetz
Dave

The Dunlop folks here MOSTLY have it right.

1) Logarithmic behavior it best for many types of effect control. Volume-based behaviors can include wet/dry mixes, output volumes, gain (on the Nova Drive, for example), and others. SOME frequency-based items also can feel better with logarithmic control. Most other FX parameters do, indeed, respond better to linear control.

2) The G knows how to compensate to some degree for linear vs. logarithmic pots. That said, if you want linear behavior, it is better to show the G linear resistance. Here is the challenge: The G really likes to see a high-impedance pot and operates MUCH better when seeing an impedance over 100K, even for expression pedals. Most linear pot (expression pedals) are 25k. They will work, but their performance can be dissapointing. So, in practice, to get a high-impedance resistance you end up needing a volume pedal, which has, dang, a logarithmic pot.

This, of course, is also not optimal, as it requires the G to compensate as best it can. Some folks find this to be ok. Others end up dissatisfied. The Easy Expression Converter is a great solution to this problem. This is just a cable that has a small bit of customized circuitry that converts a logarithmic volume pedal and presents it as near-linear resistance to the G-system. All indications are that it works great.

Last edited by Laird_Williams (2011-02-17 23:09:35)

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

I  use one for my expression and it has worked GREAT!  Really great sweep for the wah.  Just used my 535Q for the first time in a while and realized how wide the Dunlop goes.  I love it!

Last edited by major7thmusic (2011-02-17 19:10:32)

Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

Great input guys thanks! And Laird I will try the easy converter once I have the pedal here, you are the G Guru. I've heard great feedback from actual users of the pedal. The idea of the string mechanism on the EB's doesn't sit too well with me.

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

mptrin wrote:

I have a DVP1 that I use for small gigs as an expression pedal for my Nova System. I connect it with an easy expression convertor and it works really well.
-MP

Sounds nice, could you please explain what kind of convertor do you use and where it's possible to buy? or share a link.

Thanks

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

http://dbinstrumentamp.com/drupal/conte … -converter

Buy it here and there is also a video showing how the connections work. Very simple, check it out.
-Marco

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Oh... many thanks for helping smile

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

This cable was recommended to me by young Mr Bucketbot:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/cordial_cfy_09_vpp.htm

Might be an option if you are based in the EU

Best regards

Mark

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are there any Y-cables like this with right angeled jack plugs?

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

Hi again

That's exactly what I was looking for too! No luck. I ended up rearranging a few things on the board to fit everything in. The other thing to do would be to snip off those jacks and replace them. That was to be my next option and I may still do that yet. You would just need to ensure you wired each one correctly. Use a continuity tester to see which bits are connected before you snip and replicate on the right angled jacks.

Chaars

Mark

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

I have two the BOSS FV-500H, operation and another expression of the Y-type jack express a single TRS cable control cable, volume control.

Last edited by natsuto (2012-02-09 02:51:51)

Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

damcka wrote:

are there any Y-cables like this with right angeled jack plugs?

Take a look at the Hosa adapter GPP-151

Here is a link

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ … QAodHkTNJg

Have a good one,
Derrick
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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

Now there's a great idea! I may have to get myself some of these!

Cheers all

Mark

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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

mptrin wrote:

http://dbinstrumentamp.com/drupal/conte … -converter

Buy it here and there is also a video showing how the connections work. Very simple, check it out.
-Marco

Where is the link of the Video you are talking about???



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Re: Dunlop DVP1 Volume pedal

JesseGRodriguez wrote:
mptrin wrote:

http://dbinstrumentamp.com/drupal/conte … -converter

Buy it here and there is also a video showing how the connections work. Very simple, check it out.
-Marco

Where is the link of the Video you are talking about???



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After following the link, scroll down. The video is right there on the website; it shows how to connect to the Nova System, but it is essentially the same connection as for the GS expression input. Just connect and calibrate!