Topic: Make your own TonePrints?

The new pedals look great! As a potential customer I thought I'd give you my feedback...

Personally I'm not stoked about the 'rock star presets' angle. I appreciate TC want to avoid overwhelming users with the '100s' of parameters apparently available. And I can equally appreciate wanting to avoid having a website full of thousands of bad user-uploaded presets. But I think it will be annoying to know the pedal has lots of tweakable settings and not having direct access to them... at least the factory and artist presets would provide good starting points for user tweaking.

Quite possibly the factory presets sound great and I don't need to tweak anything - I've been using the Nova Reverb for a couple of years and it's fantastic. I'd gladly trade it for the new Hall of Fame though for the sake of a smaller enclosure (and a fresh warranty...)

But my issue is:
- I have two favourite settings on the Nova Reverb that I use for different gigs (a Spring and a Plate) with small tweaks to the Mix and Decay depending on the night.
- the Hall of Fame has one Spring and one Plate preset
- the Nova Reverb has three Spring and three Plate presets

...so it's not clear if I'll be able to get exactly my favourite sound from the HoF, even though it likely is capable of producing it as they probably share the same reverb engine.

It seems to me I'd likely use the pedal a while and then think 'I wish I could tweak that aspect slightly'. And then I go online to the TonePrint website and all I can see so far are a bunch of settings from rock shredders who mean nothing to me... and how do I know which TonePrint might be closer to what I'm looking for?

Just saying, I hope at some point you make the editor software available to users.

Re: Make your own TonePrints?

http://tcsupport.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/t … _faqid=247

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I JUST ordered a Hall of Fame from ProGuitarShop - if you're still interested in trading your Nova Reverb @ some point just let me know - I would love to store my reverb presets. Indieclock @ gmail dot com

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+1 for the Toneprint editor!

I've already told Jes, but just want to register my interest here, too. Complete programmability is what drew me to my G-Major 2; it would be an unusually powerful benefit to give that flexibility to the TonePrint line as well.

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I'd totally buy into this product line if I was able to run an editor that allowed me to put my signature into each pedal. Knowing that the technology is there, but we're not allowed to access it is a bit heartbreaking.

Close, but no cigar.

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Now that TC has launched an iOS (iPhone) app to beam TonePrints to the pedals, they could easily extend the app to allow editing and storing your own TonePrints on the phone.

Why not charge extra for this feature? Let the free app beam the sponsored artists' presets, then offer the editor as a paid in-app upgrade for those that wish to create their own. Using the mobile platforms would also allow for easy sharing and social media integration, adding to the awareness and buzz about these great pedals.

Last edited by roderickm (2011-11-08 17:19:46)

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Would like to second that last post except storing your settings to your phone should be part of the package. Would definitely pay for the editor. But as I noticed an IBM Thinkpad was being used for editing in videos, I guess it's written in Windows and I'm a Mac guy. Bet I could work around that if it were available.

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Yes, I would also be willing to pay for an app, that allows me to tweak the hidden parameters myself. Also I wish it was possible to store toneprints not only on the one toneprint storage place. I own the Flashback and for instance I like the Dynamic Delay from the TonePrints collection much better than the one stored on the pedal. So I would like to put the Toneprint Dynamic Delay in the storage place of the Dynamic Delay and not loose the Toneprint-Storage-Place for that.

Also I don't understand why the level-poti in loop-mode works as a master volume that even influences the bypassed signal. It would make much more sense to use it as a volume only for the loop.

Are there any chances that the changes I am suggesting might be made as a firmware upgrade in the future?

Last edited by stratosphere62 (2012-02-04 14:55:07)

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I agree with everyone here on the ability to use the editor. It's a shame that this isn't available to the general public but only to people with "status" in the music industry. the whole point of buying pedals, gear, etc. is to be able to express your musical ideas and share them with others as best as you are able. Seeing that the technology is obviously there but only making it accessible to the elite few, many of said artists whom most may not even hold stock in or be inspired by,  is counter-productive. I would gladly pay an appropriate fee to be able to utilise/maximise the capabilities of my H.O.F. reverb pedal I've purchased from your company to my tastes. I really believe that if you would devise a way to allow the general public to be able to to have full access to create their own settings in your Toneprint line of effects that you would gain an influx of customers who would be devoted to your gear.  I know that other manufacturers make multi-fx processors but most are big, bulky, take up precisous board space and lack the quality that TC is known for.

Secondly, I think an oversight on TC"s part is that you only have one storage spot to store a Toneprint. If these pedals could retain 10 settings or so, with the ability to scroll and load from a dedicated knob that would be amazing, also as much as putting an expression jack on the pedal to control perhaps up to 3 parameters at once. *Hint Hint*

Cheers!

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I think being able to recall more than one toneprint would be a definite thing to look at for the future - five would be a good start. Either way the whole toneprint concept has taken pedals into a new dimension

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This is exactly what I thought of when I heard about the toneprint concept. Alas, when I visited the site was filled with these superstar presets. They're not bad by any stretch of the imagination it's just that they're not mine:-) As a recordist an mixer I'd love to have the entire gamut of parameters for my pedals which I use as plugins.

Make it happen TC. Give us the innards. As far as i'm concerned this hasn't been done before with either software or hardware. Ever.

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Man it would be so cool. How can we get tc to do it?
To be able to manipulate and fully customize your tones, full shizzle man, would be sick!
The tone prints are cool, but i want it all!  Would be way fun on tc flashback...

Maybe it would make the lower priced pedals too bowse.... but you would sell heaps tc!!!!

PLEASE DO IT!
I'll be your best friend!

Re: Make your own TonePrints?

cant TC make a storing device (sold separately) for presets + different toneprints (since they dont want to enable editing also)? it shouldnt be hard, something you could connect via usb just to store presets, more or less like an expression pedal. ehx has one for 'hog'

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I'm thinking someday the toneprint editor will be released. Perhaps in a more simplified version than the one the tc folks are using in the videos. Maybe they'll even create a smartphone editor as one suggested. Thng is.. The whole toneprint idea is still too new. TC is not done making money of the "famous musicians custom sound" approach. Think about it. If the editor were to be released, how many would care if John Petrucci made another flashback toneprint? Probably a few hardcore fans. But I think we can all agree that if we had the editor, we'd all be sitting in our bedrooms, customizing pedaltones most of the day wink. TC would slowly kille their own market for new pedals.

Like I said, I'm pretty sure it will be released .....someday. Not anytime soon but the secret is just too good to be kept safe forever.

Anyway, these are just all my thoughts on the matter..

Last edited by Kræn (2012-04-26 17:02:16)