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what would be the best way to connect the g system to the eleven rack so I can still use the xlr outputs of the elevenrack? Can I just put the g system in the eleven racks effects loop or does the g system have to have the guitar at its input.
what would be the best way to connect the g system to the eleven rack so I can still use the xlr outputs of the elevenrack? Can I just put the g system in the eleven racks effects loop or does the g system have to have the guitar at its input.
Treat the Eleven Rack like an amp with a stereo FX return and wire it up with the G-System as follows:
1) Guitar --> G-System Input
2) G-System Insert Send --> Eleven Rack Input
3) Eleven Rack FX Send (Left) --> G-System Insert Return
4) G-System Out/L --> Eleven Rack FX Return/L
5) G-System Out/R --> Eleven Rack FX Return/R
6) Eleven Rack XLR Outs --> Console, PA, whatever
Set the Eleven Rack Effects level switch (on the back panel) to "rack effects"
In the G-System, turn on the Insert loop (Loops Menu in preset edit mode) and then turn on the insert lock (Utility Menu in menu Mode).
This will have the following benefits:
1) G-System pre-gain effects (in the first DSP section) and the G-System stombox loops will come before the eleven rack input - and hence before its amp models.
2) You will be able to configure the eleven rack so that the G-System post-gain FX (in the second DSP section of the G) are after the amp models and MAYBE after the speaker models as well (which would be good).
3) Everything that CAN be stereo on the G will be stereo.
You can/should still look through my white paper, since you will still need to set levels in the G-System to some degree. You are effectively hooking up "4-cable" configuration - but with an extra cable for the stereo return.
Thanks alot
Just to add my own experience as I have the G-system and an Eleven Rack too. Connected exactly as Laird wrote:
1) Guitar --> G-System Input
2) G-System Insert Send --> Eleven Rack Input
3) Eleven Rack FX Send (Left) --> G-System Insert Return
4) G-System Out/L --> Eleven Rack FX Return/L
5) G-System Out/R --> Eleven Rack FX Return/R
6) Eleven Rack XLR Outs --> Console, PA, whatever
Make sure you run the FX loop at the last position in the signal and set the mix to 100%. I also spent some time working with the Send & Return settings and ended up running the send between 11 and 12 o'clock and the Return at 100%.
On the G my Loop Level is 10db and Loop Headroom is 2db.
I gigged with it last night going direct and it worked absolutely fantastic.
hi
i still have some problem with the connection above
i connected everything but i can't get the eleven n G "blend" perfectly
the sound is still seperate, if i turn the mix on eleven to 50, i can still hear the overdrive from eleven n clean guitar from g system
is there anything wrong with my setup?
Last edited by hwo4r4n6 (2011-08-15 05:55:37)
Hi all,
I too have this same problem. Could anyone clarify the 'best' connection for the G-SYSTEM and 11 Rack
Ideally want to go guitar into the G - then use the 11R as the Preamp probably in the insert loop, back into the G for the Effects then back into the 11R for the XLR outs?
Nearly there but with the setup recomended here the 11R FX Loop is a mixed signal and when at 100% I lose the 11R Preamp.
Many thanks in advance for your help explaining the best signal path.
Dan