24,32,56,64bit what the heck??? (Page 1 of 3)

the sound quality will change/ get better after that right?
thanks

How would that be? According to the original post: In principal there are two different binary formats (the format of the executable code running on your host CPU): either 32 or 64bit.
We are talking about the executable format. The code containing all GUI staff of the plug-in. Remember: all processing is done in the DSPs and even then as long as you don't change the audio format no change to the sound is to be expected.

Double-precision processing isn't possible in 32 bits thus more errors result, which is why double precision sounds better at least to my ears.

Hi Hagen,

I did read and thank you.

As you say it's about error correction algorithms, with more bits allowing greater accuracy.

Of course the by-product of that is more allowable memory registers and not the other way round but I understand why people disagree and I am not wanting to cast any doubt on you, on the contrary what you have written brings even more clarity to the issue for me personally and I'm sure for anyone who reads particularly the last paragraph, even in a general way.

Thanks for all the work you have done for the platform. I really hope it can continue towards the full 64 bit computational datapath whether implemented as 32 bit ganged or otherwise, since 56 bits is enough to run DSP algorithms I'm sure.

Hope I'm making sense!

All the best to poco users the world over

Okay: Madonna's first hits were recorded 16 bit........so if you can't make good music 16 bit, you sure not can make good music 24,32,or 64 bit (floating where ever possible ;o)
Let's make music instead of talking bits & bytes  ;o)

And even black and white pictures can be fabulous......(ask Madonna)

Please explain how processor scheduling would cause changes to digital data in a file or data stream.

Now explain how it would affect the internal processing that happens with an external DSP such as within a Powercore, bearing in mind all the computer CPU is doing is executing instructions that move data into it to be processed, and collecting the results.

And as we all know, displays are affected by your CPU...

Hagen was talking about the precision that the audio data is processed at internally within the Powercore.  Bear in mind you could do the same calculations on a pocket calculator and get the same results.  The DSP is simply optimised for, and therefore very very fast at these types of calculations.

The computer's CPU word size has nothing to do with audio data apart from how quickly and efficiently calculations on said data can be performed.

If you think otherwise, then may I suggest you write a scientific paper on the phenomenon and try to get it published - because you have obviously discovered a form of magic.

Last edited by Fitz (2010-06-20 18:24:55)

BTW I have Duende and althought it performs some calculations in the host system it does not do it dynamically, ie it is fixed point.

HTH's

Well coming from an old-school background, big studios and so on we talk about experience, so let me share mine here.

I bought a powercore firewire with a $500 voucher since what initially attracted me here was what I refer to as the alleged Virus debacle, because I wanted to test claims of tc non-compliance with customer expectations.

By the time I got it (virus) all issues were "evidently" fixed.

I had heard there are mid-year sales but wanted to try the virus after testing out the 24C and it (leveler) meeting my expectations, as well as cabinet sim etc., so got the Virus even though I could have waited and bought a V-station as well but since the latter is only 32 bit single precision I passed.

I don't regret not waiting for the virus as it well just might take an eternity for Novation to update their plug in for powercore and I am happy using an X-station anyway since the native version is crud as well.

Think I'll get the popcorn out, observe and not get involved this time!

I ask you again to please explain how the CPU word length would alter the sound.

If you can't explain this, then may I suggest you stop posting rubbish.

Well in that case it should be rather simple for you to explain shouldn't it?  Except we are still waiting.

The only thing that is 'self-explanatory' is that you clearly do not understand the concepts involved (which you yourself have admitted) yet you continue to post incoherent rubbish without any evidence to back it up.

Until you are prepared to support your 'belief' with actual evidence, may I suggest you stop wasting everybody's bandwidth.