• From: Fort Walton Beach, FL
  • Registered: 2010-03-16
  • Posts: 5

Topic: Laird Williams White Paper

Where can I obtain a copy of this white paper regarding the g-system?  I have googled and googled "How to get the most out of the g-system" and "white paper Laird Williams" but just brings me to articles that talk about the famous white paper by Laird instead of the actual document.

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  • From: Denmark
  • Registered: 2010-03-11
  • Posts: 20

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Found my copy here:

http://www.guitaraffair.com/g-system-support.php

  • From: Denmark
  • Registered: 2009-11-05
  • Posts: 377

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Here you are are ... (courtesy of Laird)

http://www.guitaraffair.com/g-system-support.php

Cheers
Peter

  • From: Fort Walton Beach, FL
  • Registered: 2010-03-16
  • Posts: 5

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Thank You Very Very much..

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  • Registered: 2009-07-30
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Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Why isn't this stickied??

Edit: After the post was stickied.

Thank be to you sir wink

Last edited by Angrypoonani (2010-03-21 02:36:02)

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  • Registered: 2008-01-29
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Re: Laird Williams White Paper

hahah my video is there on the front...awesome

  • From: Thousand Oaks, CA
  • Registered: 2009-10-31
  • Posts: 4

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Is there any documentation on the "input buffer mod" featured on the LIMITED edition?  Can us lowly regular G System users get this performed?

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  • Registered: 2009-08-05
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Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Hey I'm with you. Can the rest of us get in on the input buffer mod?
Big wonderin'

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  • Registered: 2010-09-26
  • Posts: 1

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Very pretty and nice. Pleased to know to 1st time about the G-system. It is definitely useful. smile

Last edited by jame10 (2010-09-26 21:46:13)

  • Registered: 2010-07-01
  • Posts: 2

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Thanks Kraen,,

It's a nice to see your giving link of G system product support.
Because it's a new theme for me. But getting this point now i can fill that it'a remarkable important.

Great guyzz..

  • Registered: 2008-08-22
  • Posts: 1

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Probably the wrong place to put this, but i'm thinking i'll be forgiven -

Laird - thankyou.  I've had my g-system for years now, and still when i change my rig I go to your white paper.

such a generous piece of work

Ta

Jack

  • Registered: 2010-11-02
  • Posts: 15

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

I am new to the G system forums....but I have been a G system user for over a year.  Laird You are the man!!! God Bless you for making the "White Paper".  Like most G system users I want to get rid of it ASAP.  I had no understanding of its operations and system flow.  Your book is the BIBLE for the G system.  I can't thank you enough for this book!! T.C should really do something for Laird as he probably has saved them ass loads of returned G systems.

  • Registered: 2010-03-09
  • Posts: 1

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Hi there!!

I'm from argentina, and i'm runing the G into a mesa road king amp. The white paper of laird, is the BIBLE here maan. Thank you alot, this publishing was very useful. Regards from argentinaaaa

  • From: Wallington, UK
  • Registered: 2011-02-23
  • Posts: 68

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

I must agree that Laird has produced a generous document for us all to follow. I refer to it all the time, and having him here on this forum is an extra bonus. All the time and effort that went it to writing it is truly appreciated.

Many thanks to Laird.

Regards - Barry

  • From: Winchester, UK
  • Registered: 2012-01-05
  • Posts: 43

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

I got a G System (Red Ltd) a couple of weeks ago and despite reading the manual from cover  to cover several times, was still not happy with the effect the unit was having on my tone and gain (Gibson AL sig Les Paul Axcess and Cornford MK50ii). I am not an eejit either (besides being a science graduate and also having built and serviced my own amps I am a devoted gadget man and am well used to setting up new gizmos) I was still getting tied in knots with all of the options available on the G System and the confusing units and poor explanations in the user manual; my frustrations were rising.

I just came across this forum and also Laird's white paper and I have to say, I have rediscovered the will to live! I was close to selling the unit and now I love it again! I can't thank Laird enough for this excellent work; he should be on a retainer from TC Electronic a the very least. Well done that man!

To any other MK50ii users. I constructed a lead to tie the amp relays to those in the G System and it works a treat! 6 Pin DIN at one end and two TRS jacks on the other. This replaces the 5 switch pedal board you get with the amp. This was the whole point in buying a G System for me; to cut down on the tap dancing (I am supposed to be the singer!).

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  • Registered: 2012-03-07
  • Posts: 1

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Its a really great topic to discuss...I really enjoyed to read this.This topic has given me much knowledge and confidence..Thanks for this.
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  • From: Australia
  • Registered: 2012-02-11
  • Posts: 38

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Im having a few issues with the white paper, can someone help me
it states on the bottom of page 26
"I recommend that you do yourself a favour and grab a small trs -trs recording snake and use it for hooking up your g system to your amp. "
Then on Page 32   (2.1.4.3)
Gather /Acquire the following materials
3) TRS-TRS ("balanced" or Stereo) cables long enough to go from your g system to your amp
2) ts-ts ("mono" or "instrument") cables no longer then 18" in length
1) 2 channel ISO box that will prevent ground loops..

So my question is, do I need both trs-trs and ts-ts cables or just one of the 2 types The first statement says that a good 8 channel trs-trs snake cable will be all that I need.  and the second statment says slightly different.

So which is it ?

And do I really need an ISO box ?  I mean after spending $1200 on a brand new g system I still have to buy another gadget ??
I dont want to sound like a complainer, but we aren't all made of money...

Thanks for any help

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  • From: Hants UK
  • Registered: 2009-08-15
  • Posts: 896

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

ibanezfreak wrote:

Im having a few issues with the white paper, can someone help me
it states on the bottom of page 26
"I recommend that you do yourself a favour and grab a small trs -trs recording snake and use it for hooking up your g system to your amp. "
Then on Page 32   (2.1.4.3)
Gather /Acquire the following materials
3) TRS-TRS ("balanced" or Stereo) cables long enough to go from your g system to your amp
2) ts-ts ("mono" or "instrument") cables no longer then 18" in length
1) 2 channel ISO box that will prevent ground loops..

So my question is, do I need both trs-trs and ts-ts cables or just one of the 2 types The first statement says that a good 8 channel trs-trs snake cable will be all that I need.  and the second statment says slightly different.

So which is it ?

And do I really need an ISO box ?  I mean after spending $1200 on a brand new g system I still have to buy another gadget ??
I dont want to sound like a complainer, but we aren't all made of money...

Thanks for any help

IMO it's quite clearly explained but to clear it up you need Both. wink
TRS from G system output or Insert send to Iso Box. TS from Iso Box to amp input or loop return. wink

If your amp had balanced connection jacks you could use TRS for everything but virtually no amps to my knowledge have that.

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  • From: Australia
  • Registered: 2012-02-11
  • Posts: 38

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

bucketbot wrote:
ibanezfreak wrote:

Im having a few issues with the white paper, can someone help me
it states on the bottom of page 26
"I recommend that you do yourself a favour and grab a small trs -trs recording snake and use it for hooking up your g system to your amp. "
Then on Page 32   (2.1.4.3)
Gather /Acquire the following materials
3) TRS-TRS ("balanced" or Stereo) cables long enough to go from your g system to your amp
2) ts-ts ("mono" or "instrument") cables no longer then 18" in length
1) 2 channel ISO box that will prevent ground loops..

So my question is, do I need both trs-trs and ts-ts cables or just one of the 2 types The first statement says that a good 8 channel trs-trs snake cable will be all that I need.  and the second statment says slightly different.

So which is it ?

And do I really need an ISO box ?  I mean after spending $1200 on a brand new g system I still have to buy another gadget ??
I dont want to sound like a complainer, but we aren't all made of money...

Thanks for any help

IMO it's quite clearly explained but to clear it up you need Both. wink
TRS from G system output or Insert send to Iso Box. TS from Iso Box to amp input or loop return. wink

If your amp had balanced connection jacks you could use TRS for everything but virtually no amps to my knowledge have that.

Hi... thanks for the response.. 
I wasn't really saying that laird wasn't being clear, but when your dealing with such tech talk, and alot of it goes over my head, im sure you can see how I could be confused..  Laird says that the snake is all you need which when I read sounded like a great idea, and I went and bought one there and then online while reading tongue .   One snake to rule them all, with all the cables you need inside (awesome)... Then later on I read I need other types.. and an ISO box...  which I will hold off untill I set it all up and see if im pleased with the sound.. 

So I needed to be certain..


Thanks again...

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  • From: Hants UK
  • Registered: 2009-08-15
  • Posts: 896

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

OK..Cool! smile Yeah IMO the snake is the best way to go.
I got an 8 way TRS & modded 3 of the plugs at the amp end to pseudo balanced.

Easy if you have a soldering iron.

This leaves a few TRS cables spare too if you need to later use an ISO box. wink

Works great! smile

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  • From: Australia
  • Registered: 2012-02-11
  • Posts: 38

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

bucketbot wrote:

OK..Cool! smile Yeah IMO the snake is the best way to go.
I got an 8 way TRS & modded 3 of the plugs at the amp end to pseudo balanced.

Easy if you have a soldering iron.

This leaves a few TRS cables spare too if you need to later use an ISO box. wink

Works great! smile


I may need to ask you how to do the pseudo balanced solder job in the future wink

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  • From: Hants UK
  • Registered: 2009-08-15
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Re: Laird Williams White Paper

ibanezfreak wrote:
bucketbot wrote:

OK..Cool! smile Yeah IMO the snake is the best way to go.
I got an 8 way TRS & modded 3 of the plugs at the amp end to pseudo balanced.

Easy if you have a soldering iron.

This leaves a few TRS cables spare too if you need to later use an ISO box. wink

Works great! smile


I may need to ask you how to do the pseudo balanced solder job in the future wink

See below. wink

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9498358/cable.png

The diagram shows a TS cable at one end. Obviously if you are just re-soldering your TRS snake jacks at one end it will just mean that the ring will not be connected to anything. wink

Last edited by bucketbot (2012-03-25 11:17:55)

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  • From: Australia
  • Registered: 2012-02-11
  • Posts: 38

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

cheers !!

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  • From: Stuttgart, Germany
  • Registered: 2009-10-26
  • Posts: 51

Re: Laird Williams White Paper

I don't quite get this...

Hello out there!

In the diagram above, the ring/right is connected to the sleeve/left.
If the jack on the left was trs, the ring/left remains unconnected.
Where is the sleeve right connected to?

Thanks!

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  • Registered: 2009-08-15
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Re: Laird Williams White Paper

Vmax. wrote:

I don't quite get this...

Hello out there!

In the diagram above, the ring/right is connected to the sleeve/left.
If the jack on the left was trs, the ring/left remains unconnected.
Where is the sleeve right connected to?

Thanks!

Right sleeve is not connected to anything. (Cut & insulated) That's the point.
Suggest you read the original discussion.

http://forum.tcelectronic.com/topic/116 … -solution/

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