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thanks sheguitarplayer - that's a cool idea. I played around with it last night and there is clearly a difference. I'm still a bit reliant on the compressor (don't use the filter that much though). I'll wait for what TC has planned but guess I could sacrifice a loop for an external compressor if I find it's worth it soundwise.
Volume Swell...Rotary...Modulated Delay...please ;-)
This bears repeating. Thanks.
1. Triple delays (circular)
2. Being able to use mod, pitch, delay, reverb buttons as patch buttons and staying in the same set of patches as 1-5 buttons)
3. Bug fixes
4. Editor
The triple delay setting (which is awesome) can already be done by sett the pitch shifter delay to 292ms pan left 100% and a dual delay with 584ms 100% right and another with 888ms centered, and presto, a circular delay!
However, it would be better to extend the dual delay to a triple.
This would be a great feature of the G-System IMHO
Cheers!
- jonah
Last edited by jonah (2007-11-25 09:18:18)
loop switch functionality.
you should be able to either use the loop switches like:
1 and 2 and 3 etc... (the way they are currently) stacking the pedals
or 1 or 2 or 3 etc... In other words, if preset 1 has loop 1 engaged (mild overdrive) I
would like if when I switched to loop 2 within the same preset (insane fuzz) for loop 1 to
be automatically disabled because together they sound terrible.
Last edited by Godskid9876 (2007-11-25 03:58:13)
I think it would be nice to have effects like tremolo and such be set to actual BPM timing. This works when you are set to global tempo settings, but I would like to be able to achieve true syncing with delays, trems, filters, etc... instead of setting Hz and hoping it gets close.
sheguitarplayer wrote:I'm a newbie so I havent fully got to grips with the gsystem yet, but Im getting a better sound so far by inputting my guitar into the return of loop 1 . That way I can still use the remaining loops, whilst bypassing the first set of A/D D/A converters. Im hoping to get the rest sorted so I can input the guitar right at the front of the Gsys, but I havent got it nailed yet.
So you're not using the onboard wah and comp modules?
No, I'm not. I go from my guitar to a cry baby wah to the return of loop 1 on the gsys. Its still not perfect but seems to work better than going into the gsys input.
Ive given up on that method . Just cant get the gsys to react well with the front end of my amps. Seems to degrade the signal, removing a ton of bottom end and making the 'ring out' of crunch chords sound a little ragged. Must have spent hours fiddling on with the level controls to no avail. Maybe Im looking for the impossibe. I was hoping that I could get as close as possible to the original amps sound when all the effects are bypassed. Doesnt work for me Im afraid. I do love the effects on the gsys tho, so I was considering buying some sort of midi controlled looping device which might in theory sort all this out for me. The Lehle one looks good.
What about speaker simulation? And being able to pan the phaser?
Last edited by Stephan (2007-11-26 13:49:45)
If the system had specific FX chain routing (ie. place the FX blocks where you need them in the chain) it would make my decade
this is NEEEDED badly.
Also being able to set the blend/mix for the loops is a feature i thought was already included. Seemed pretty basic, but it would improve usability greatly.
I'd like to suggest this:
Add an option to skip the initial A/D, D/A step before the loops be added (per preset).
- Yes, even if that means that the compressor and filter won't be available for those presets.
Personally, I tend to use the compressor only for clean sounds (only occasionally as a booster for overdriven sounds). For those sounds that I'm not going to be using the compressor or filter (in my case most of them), this would significantly improve my sounds. In the spirit of "True bypass", I think this could even be a selling point for TC and attract more users to the platform. 
It would be great to get even just an answer from TC on whether or not this is possible.
I'd like to suggest this:
Add an option to skip the initial A/D, D/A step before the loops be added (per preset).
- Yes, even if that means that the compressor and filter won't be available for those presets.Personally, I tend to use the compressor only for clean sounds (only occasionally as a booster for overdriven sounds). For those sounds that I'm not going to be using the compressor or filter (in my case most of them), this would significantly improve my sounds. In the spirit of "True bypass", I think this could even be a selling point for TC and attract more users to the platform.
It would be great to get even just an answer from TC on whether or not this is possible.
+1 on that. I would like to use the loops (one of the main selling points) without the compressor and wah, just to keep the chain before the amp analog.
tomasgunn wrote:I'd like to suggest this:
Add an option to skip the initial A/D, D/A step before the loops be added (per preset).
- Yes, even if that means that the compressor and filter won't be available for those presets.Personally, I tend to use the compressor only for clean sounds (only occasionally as a booster for overdriven sounds). For those sounds that I'm not going to be using the compressor or filter (in my case most of them), this would significantly improve my sounds. In the spirit of "True bypass", I think this could even be a selling point for TC and attract more users to the platform.
It would be great to get even just an answer from TC on whether or not this is possible.
+1 on that. I would like to use the loops (one of the main selling points) without the compressor and wah, just to keep the chain before the amp analog.
+1 again.
I use a Barber tone press in loop 1 when I need compression, and never use the filter - so I NEVER use the first Digital section anyway. I'd LOVE to be able to bypass it.
I use a Barber tone press in loop 1 when I need compression, and never use the filter - so I NEVER use the first Digital section anyway. I'd LOVE to be able to bypass it.
You can just plug straight into your Barber then, can't you?
the point is that the loops are a fundamentally useful part of a preset. If we plug all the cool stomp boxes we have, before the input, we lose out on the gsystem's ability to control those and are essentially back to tap dancing 
the point is that the loops are a fundamentally useful part of a preset. If we plug all the cool stomp boxes we have, before the input, we lose out on the gsystem's ability to control those and are essentially back to tap dancing
Yep, and without the loop section, you may as well buy the G force for a lot less money! Please sort the loops out!
I submitted this idea a while ago to the support team - The ability to save global input settings to serve different guitars with different pickups, so you can call up a pre-saved named input setting for single coil or humbucking guitar ect. i realise there are ways round this ie use the boost to attenuate the level, i think this would be a valued feature to the g-system.
I had this problem at first, but since there are so many user programmable presets available, I just made adjustments for individual guitars and used the EQ, Comp & sometimes the Boost to give me consistent levels when I switch between instruments...it seems like a simple solution to me.
Laird_Williams wrote:I use a Barber tone press in loop 1 when I need compression, and never use the filter - so I NEVER use the first Digital section anyway. I'd LOVE to be able to bypass it.
You can just plug straight into your Barber then, can't you?
You really don't understand the value of putting pedals in the G's loops do you?
If I plug the guitar right into the barber, I either:
1) have to have it in the signal chain all the time, whether I WANT to use it or not for a given song or...
2) I have to tap dance between that pedal, my other pedals, and the G to reconfigure the on/off for every friggin pedal in the rig.
The entire point of having the G's loops is that you can bypass or enable pedals on a patch-by-patch basis - without having to touch the pedals during a performance. Heck, they can hide in a rack and not even be out on the stage with you.
This isn't rocket surgery, is it?
What about being able to control the LOOPS MIX in the chain?
For example, being able to set the MIX % of each LOOP, which can vary from preset to preset.
This would be very useful if you have a pedal WITHOUT a mix control knob, or if you're just using a/some loop(s) as a line in jack...
If this fix is possible, it would open up so many possibilities
-having a pre-recorded backing track that you can mix behind what you're playing
-Making those old pedals you have without a mix control as subtle as you need them to be
What about being able to control the LOOPS MIX in the chain?
For example, being able to set the MIX % of each LOOP, which can vary from preset to preset.
This would be very useful if you have a pedal WITHOUT a mix control knob, or if you're just using a/some loop(s) as a line in jack...
If this fix is possible, it would open up so many possibilities
-having a pre-recorded backing track that you can mix behind what you're playing
-Making those old pedals you have without a mix control as subtle as you need them to be
That would actually be kind of cool...
It would be nice to have a clean sound,and then, with an expression pedal, slowly mix in the overdrive pedal in the loop. It would be kind of like BOSS GT-8 can do.
- jonah
You really don't understand the value of putting pedals in the G's loops do you?
...
This isn't rocket surgery, is it?
Hey, don't hold back mate! ;-)
I think that I failed to accurately gauge the hardship factor here...no worries...swings and roundabouts.
digitalkettle wrote:sheguitarplayer wrote:I'm a newbie so I havent fully got to grips with the gsystem yet, but Im getting a better sound so far by inputting my guitar into the return of loop 1 . That way I can still use the remaining loops, whilst bypassing the first set of A/D D/A converters. Im hoping to get the rest sorted so I can input the guitar right at the front of the Gsys, but I havent got it nailed yet.
So you're not using the onboard wah and comp modules?
No, I'm not. I go from my guitar to a cry baby wah to the return of loop 1 on the gsys. Its still not perfect but seems to work better than going into the gsys input.
Ive given up on that method . Just cant get the gsys to react well with the front end of my amps. Seems to degrade the signal, removing a ton of bottom end and making the 'ring out' of crunch chords sound a little ragged. Must have spent hours fiddling on with the level controls to no avail. Maybe Im looking for the impossibe. I was hoping that I could get as close as possible to the original amps sound when all the effects are bypassed. Doesnt work for me Im afraid. I do love the effects on the gsys tho, so I was considering buying some sort of midi controlled looping device which might in theory sort all this out for me. The Lehle one looks good.
After reading your experience, i tried to compare the connection in the input and in the loop 1. Well you are damn right. I noticed a great improvement in my tone connecting straight to the loop 1,with a more defined lowend and singing mids. Moreover, the sound has totally lost a sort of harshness wich I had uncounsciously learnt to live with.
Now, there is just one thing left to understand. This audible sound degradation is due:
- to the double conversion thing (actually the sound is converted 4 times!)
- maybe to a not perfect match of guitar output with g-system input. In this case, something like a tonebone dragster could help! I am going to try it out.
What do you think about this? Anyway, until i find out what is the reason, i am going to connect directly to loop 1, the difference is so evident!
gbtomassi, that tonebone dragster looks like just the thing. Will try to get my hands on one and let you know how it goes!
so i will do, thanks again for sharing your routing, it really helped me a lot. I have tried it on rehersal yesterday and was impressed: so i will run this way on a live gig saturday.
so i will do, thanks again for sharing your routing, it really helped me a lot. I have tried it on rehersal yesterday and was impressed: so i will run this way on a live gig saturday.
I was reading this and what you can do is: (though you have to sacrifice loop1 and 2 
)
You can go from your guitar to loop1 return (loop 1 is always on)
from loop 2 send go to input
from loop 1 send go to loop 2 return
by switching on loop 2 you can then use the comp and wah.
just a thought....
gbtommasi wrote:so i will do, thanks again for sharing your routing, it really helped me a lot. I have tried it on rehersal yesterday and was impressed: so i will run this way on a live gig saturday.
I was reading this and what you can do is: (though you have to sacrifice loop1 and 2
You can go from your guitar to loop1 return (loop 1 is always on)
from loop 2 send go to input
from loop 1 send go to loop 2 returnby switching on loop 2 you can then use the comp and wah.
just a thought....
well, i don't think i could use this routing, it's too complex, yet i could experiment with it to see if the problem is on the converters side or on the input stage side. Thanks
tomasgunn wrote:I'd like to suggest this:
Add an option to skip the initial A/D, D/A step before the loops be added (per preset).
- Yes, even if that means that the compressor and filter won't be available for those presets.Personally, I tend to use the compressor only for clean sounds (only occasionally as a booster for overdriven sounds). For those sounds that I'm not going to be using the compressor or filter (in my case most of them), this would significantly improve my sounds. In the spirit of "True bypass", I think this could even be a selling point for TC and attract more users to the platform.
It would be great to get even just an answer from TC on whether or not this is possible.
+1 on that. I would like to use the loops (one of the main selling points) without the compressor and wah, just to keep the chain before the amp analog.
I just read an interesting work-around for this on TGP.
gbtommasi sacrificed loop1, and plugs his guitar into the loop1 return rather than the guitar in. He gets a guitar-level signal through the loops and into his amp - and he completely bypasses the first digital FX stage. He says it works great.
Brilliant idea if you asked me - assuming you can afford to give up a loop.